[info/FT] Cross Breeders

By Retired breeder, 23rd January 2011 23:59:27
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Here we go! A cross breed thread!

The purpose of this topic is for cross breeders to have a place to discuss their crossbreeding programs and to share crossbreeding secrets and advice with others who may be interested in giving crossbreeding a try. Feel free to talk about your crossbreeding programs and your achievements and failures in crossbreeding.
Please remember to follow the rules of the forum and be informative and helpful.


Reminder to all.

Please do not advertise sales of your horses, or items wanted in this topic. I can turn a blind eye to the covers being offered (as long as they are not blatant advertisements) because we are, after all, trying to help each other progress and there is no filter on public covers for searching for crosses, but items sales and items wanted do not belong in any of the public forums and we have a sales forum for horse sales so please, lets keep our topic clean of the ads.

This is also *not* a chat topic...Please keep that in mind. If it turns into one, I will be forced to close it down.

Thanks everyone

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By AthenaMyth, 27th January 2011 23:02:25
default smiley (lol) I suppose it would be. I dunno if I actually want to go for GP or just best in a disipline. Guess we'll see how my crosses do.default smiley :d
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By dragoniys, 28th January 2011 01:03:59
My latest cross (on this site)

Arab/French Trotter
Res'kap

I know I shouldn't have bred his dam before 100blup, but couldn't wait default smiley (lol)
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By AthenaMyth, 28th January 2011 01:57:52
default smiley (lol) I understand completely. So hard to wait. Hes got really good speed!
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By Retired breeder, 28th January 2011 06:30:35
my foals info on the Australia version both parents are found. did not use tears default smiley :) sjes a throughbred and French trotter
GP- 351.07
Stamina 52.19 Gallop 55.19
Speed 70.21 Trot 55.18
Dressage 66.17 Jumping 52.13
By Retired breeder, 28th January 2011 07:37:48
Those are some nice crosses.

AthenaMyth, we found that the best way to improve a set of disciplines was to find those breeds that have the same 3 disciplines in their top 3, just not in the same order, and then cross-breed. So if you want to improve Dressage, for example, you would go look for all the breeds that have dressage in their top 3 skills and cross-breed within that group.
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We also found it was very helpful for the amount of gain to regularly introduce pure-bred to the line - every 3rd or 4th generation seemed to give good results.
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Another thing we found was than an occasional breeding with a horse that has Speed as it's top skill helped a LOT with the blupping and overall performance.

default smiley :k We did learn that it's possible to breed a "bad" cross that is very, very, very difficult to blup. We found that horses with "level" skills often won't blup without BM assistance. When I say "level" skills I mean if all 6 disciplines have the same number in the GP, so a horse with all skills in the 60's would be fine, but a horse having all skills at 65 would struggle.
By AthenaMyth, 28th January 2011 16:36:38
Awesome foal twanyboy!

Cheiron - alrightdefault smiley :d

I had actually looked hard before for what horses would go best together for that disipline like you said, and the top three were PSH, Friesian and FT, which is what I'm breeding, while trying keeping trot up there so breeding back to Purebred trotters. I'm a planner, so I had my breedings planned out for a few generations, and I'm glad to see that I'm doing it right. Guess lurking on the international site helped.default smiley (m)

This was very helpful thank you!default smiley :-)) I will be very careful to not get level skills and definitely be asking for advice later.
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By Retired breeder, 28th January 2011 23:31:30
Ill have to give some of these a try once I can access sales! they all sound great! im going to stick with welshes for now. Is it just me or are the made to measure really cheap at the moment?
By Retired breeder, 28th January 2011 23:42:55
I think so, cg34219.
By dragoniys, 30th January 2011 03:22:11
AthenaMyth, I'm not sure whether it will be the same here, but on the international site, we can no longer breed back to pure. The most it will ever be is 99%
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By AthenaMyth, 30th January 2011 19:07:29
dragoniys, Sorry, the context I meant was that I would breed my crosses to Purebred Trotters for better trot and for dominance, not back to pure. Guess I need to be clearer.default smiley :$ I did hear about the 99% pure thing. Thank youdefault smiley :)
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By dragoniys, 31st January 2011 02:44:09
default smiley (lol) No worries and you're welcome darl default smiley :)
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By Retired breeder, 1st February 2011 00:57:25
Just bred my first Akhal Teke/Shetland mix!
Her name is TheDangerOfFate, under Colourful~Crossbreds.
By Retired breeder, 1st February 2011 02:01:49
I'm trying to cross breed Akhal-Teke with a Thoroughbreed. default smiley :d I combine the speeds and gallops to make an awesome one.default smiley (b) I'll post on here when she has foaled
By AthenaMyth, 1st February 2011 17:16:06
Newest PSHxTrotter foals.
Feliciano
Natalya, My second filly, finally..

Not so happy with Natalya's GP, but it'll be ok after games I think. Be so much easier to finish my first pair if I could afford to buy hundreds of passesdefault smiley :-)) but I just bought me three unis and I shouldn't spend all mah money..
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By Retired breeder, 2nd February 2011 00:16:31
AthenaMyth I got almost 353 after games with my first foal. I envy your babies!default smiley (lol)
By AthenaMyth, 2nd February 2011 00:31:43
lol I just got lucky. the purebred PSH horses havve been GP'd much faster than my poor little frenchies.. I think the highest PB French trotter is at like 351. something right now.. -huggles Frenchies-
AthenaMyth
By AthenaMyth, 2nd February 2011 00:36:34
oops I lied.. at 353 after games now.
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By Retired breeder, 2nd February 2011 15:51:07
Bred my mare, DangerousCupcake, to a Shetland, and used the FW...
Fingers crossed!
By Retired breeder, 3rd February 2011 00:36:25
These are the crosses I've bred so far...
Arab/Akhal-Teke
Shetland/Akhal-Teke

What do ya think?
By Retired breeder, 4th February 2011 02:00:27
I'm not a crossbreeder, but I have crossbred horses before. Excuse me if this may be incorrect- I'm no professional xP

If you're crossbreeding horses, you either want to pick two breeds that excel in certain areas (hence, breeding them will make the offspring even better) or two breeds that make up for each others weaknesses. For example, a horse that's good in dressage and trotting could be bred with a fast horse with so-so dressage skill. This would give you an all around decent horse, good for all kinds of events. Kind of a jack-of-all-trades, master-of-none scenario.

Hope that helped.
By Retired breeder, 4th February 2011 05:38:07
Nice looking crosses everyone!
By Retired breeder, 4th February 2011 18:06:53
I am just starting to try cross-breeding alittle. I want some good jumpers with great stamina too so I crossed Akhal-tekes with Hanoverians... Is that ok? I got some pretty nice foals with pretty good skills, so I personaly think it would be a great mix!default smiley :) What do you guy think? I mean, I'm only dabbing in the cross-breeding society so I need some advice!
By Retired breeder, 4th February 2011 19:32:39
When the game picks the breed pic for a crossbred foal does it always pick the sire's?
By AthenaMyth, 4th February 2011 20:57:00
It looks like a great mix hiddenmeadows! I think it would be good with the skills its getting.
Whimsical- Apparently for a 50 50 cross, the foal will always be the sires breed. After that it goes with the highest percentage.
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