Item or pass trafficking. What's that?

Hello,

This is a copy of the Private Message sent by Ow to each player, for reference.

Cheers,
Cailow


Hello Everyone,
Lately it has been brought to my attention that there have been some misunderstandings concerning what is or isn't allowed when buying or selling items on the game.

I wish to clarify a few points to make sure we are all on the same page regarding item or pass trafficking.

What is pass or item trafficking?
It's simply performing a transaction outside of the available settings and systems offered directly by the game.

- For instance selling a regular horse in a direct sale over 1 000 000 equus and 20 passes isn't possible on Howrse. Some players will therefore sell a second low value horse for a high price to get around the fixed and allowed maximum price. This isn't allowed, if we set a limit there is a reason behind it and trying to get around it is in essence a way of cheating. Not to mention the number of scams this type of transaction generates.

- Black Market items can be exchanged against other Black Market items or equus or given thanks to a donation but only within certain limits. When you donate an item via the gift system, you do it freely and shouldn't ask for a fee for it. That's is going around the intended nature of this feature and therefore not allowed.
This includes listing black market items as being for sale on your presentations or saying that black market items will be accepted in lieu of passes for negotiable horse sales which is also pass/item trafficking.

- You cannot sell passes on the game, so using the horse sales or item exchanges as a payment for that type of transaction isn't allowed.

Here are a few of the points that can be found in our Terms of Sale and Terms of Use regarding un-allowed transactions.

In the Terms of Use:
Chapter 3 . USE OF SERVICES AND RULES OF CONDUCT

3.1 Use of Services.

a) You must be authorised to use the Services for which you register in accordance with these Terms or any other terms applicable to such a Service.
b) The Services are intended for personal use only and you must in no event use them in any way for commercial purposes without obtaining a licence to do so from us and/or our licensors.
c) You shall not, directly or indirectly:
(i) sell, rent out or market the Content;

In the terms of Sale:

Chapter 3. Grant of License.
3.3 Transfer of Credits, Subscription or Additional Content.Except where the Service allows a transfer and/or exchange by way of a specific feature within the Service, You shall not transfer or otherwise exchange the Credits, the Subscription or Additional Content within the Service to other users. OWLIENT prohibits and does not recognize any purported transfers of Credits, Subscription(s) or Additional Content effectuated outside the Services. Accordingly, in no event shall You transfer, sell, or otherwise exchange in kind (nor attempt to do the same) Credits for « real » money, or outside of the Service.

Chapter 6.Credits and Subscription have no real value.
Notwithstanding any provision to the contrary contained in these Terms of Sale or the Terms of Use, Additional Content, Subscription and Credits, or any other terminology used to describe such, have no monetary or “real world” value and may in no event be exchanged or redeemed for “real” currency or in kind.
OWLIENT prohibits and does not recognize the purported sale, gift or trade in the « real world » of anything that appears or originates in the Services. Accordingly, You may not sell or transfer Additional Content, Subscription or Credits by any means, nor buy such Additional Content, Subscription or Credits for any purposes other than for their use in the Service(s). Similarly, Subscription(s) or Credits cannot be used to gamble with other users, except if such a feature is expressly included and permitted by OWLIENT in the Service.

You can also find a line concerning this on the karma page:
"Cheating: Asking other users their passwords, organizing scams, breaches of trust, stealing accounts, trafficking with accounts, passes or in-game items."

I hope this will clarify any remaining doubts concerning what you can or not do on Howrse and allow you to enjoy your game.
Best Regards
Ow
cailow
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By Retired breeder, 20th January 2015 15:08:53
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I didn't get it ( haven't received message).
If I did ,it was so long time ego that I don't remember.
No offense, but its old news howrsedefault smiley (ow)....
By Retired breeder, 20th January 2015 18:49:31
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So what your saying is that people are trying to sell horses more then the limit?
By Retired breeder, 20th January 2015 19:04:25
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Retired breeder wrote:

So what your saying is that people are trying to sell horses more then the limit?


Not everyone but sometimes, they want 1 500 000 for a horse but the limit is 1 000 000 so they sell a second horse for the player for 500 000.
This PM showed up on the International site about 2 months ago if anyone is wondering.
mpolce
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By Retired breeder, 21st January 2015 20:17:23
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Makes sense, my Int. account got it.default smiley :)
Oh no I feel bad I didnt know that you couldnt accept BMIs instead of passes for horses. default smiley (a)
jazbean
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By Retired breeder, 22nd January 2015 20:21:16
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I don't feel bad.

I'm rather disgusted that they have the time to PM every single person on Howrse about "pass trafficking" when really it's just a way to stop people from trading passes on the game so

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It's not like you're owned by a billion dollar company or anything default smiley (o)

Cut the players some slack - and give up a little bit. Players do it ALL THE TIME and unfortunately, you can't stop all of them. So stop wasting your time by posting these messages, Ow. Because really, people have better things to do and other things to buy than purchase passes on this game.

Enough is enough.
By Retired breeder, 23rd January 2015 04:36:52
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and for that cover up "<>"

it was stated that

**they don't lose any precious money**

because that's all they really care out. Over pricing, pressuring the money out of players.
By Retired breeder, 23rd January 2015 04:42:33
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I agree with moose, we should be able to trade our BMI's for passes, it wouldn't hurt Owlient.
It has more to do with the rediculus amounts of reports of players being scammed. All multiplayer games have some sort of preventative measure to curtail item exchanges that occur out of the systems parameters.
boobrrypiegrl
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Retired breeder wrote:

I don't feel bad.

I'm rather disgusted that they have the time to PM every single person on Howrse about "pass trafficking" when really it's just a way to stop people from trading passes on the game so

<>

It's not like you're owned by a billion dollar company or anything default smiley (o)

Cut the players some slack - and give up a little bit. Players do it ALL THE TIME and unfortunately, you can't stop all of them. So stop wasting your time by posting these messages, Ow. Because really, people have better things to do and other things to buy than purchase passes on this game.

Enough is enough.


@moose, I agree with you
horsepower911
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I find it very interesting that all the other servers that have this thread have it locked so no replies can be made. So in essence it is just an announcement only.

There was a huge discussion in the VIP forum on the International site regarding the PM sent and after many pages with most replies on the complaining side of why Howrse feels the PM was needed in the first place and uneven disciplinary action taken against various "offenders" the thread got locked stating they were not allowed to discuss Howrses policies and practices..

Yet here it is as an open discussion. We Canadians always seem to be the odd man out.default smiley ;)
mpolce
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Retired breeder wrote:

I didn't get it ( haven't received message).
If I did ,it was so long time ego that I don't remember.
No offense, but its old news howrsedefault smiley (ow)....


It may have been a long time ago, but we have had many asking about this. So, to assist them further we have brought here for your ease of referencing it.
cailow
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